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Kathy Griffin joins Molly Jong-Fast and Rick Wilson for a special episode of The New Abnormal recorded right after the vice presidential debate. The gang thought Kamala Harris was the clear winner but they couldn\\u2019t stop looking at the vice president\\u2019s eye. \\u201cThe closeup shots of Mike Pence\\u2019s bleeding eyeball were like watching an eighties horror movie. I expected some sort of snake to come running out of it at any minute,\\u201d said Rick. And that was before the fly stuck to his head. \\u201cIt\'s almost like it gets inflamed during the debate. And the fly was doing some triage,\\u201d said Griffin.

Pence came into the debate needing to try and help Trump win back the women voters who have deserted him since 2016, but that was a total fail.\\u201cMaybe I\'m biased because I hate Mike Pence with passion and burning fire of a thousand suns,\\u201d said Molly. \\u201cBut I just saw a guy who doesn\\u2019t give a shit about women and who doesn\\u2019t respect women and who talked over [the moderator] Susan Page and talked over Kamala.\\u201d

Rick agreed: \\u201cHe comes across as a guy, who\\u2019s saying, \\u2018Well, hey little lady, what can I do to get you into this beautiful \\u201889 Camry today?\\u2019 Just there\\u2019s a little creepiness about him.\\u201d

\\u201cI will say, as a female watching, I did feel like Pence was doing a very classic gaslighting, the woman,\\u201d said Griffin. Pence also failed to commit to President Trump accepting the result of the election and agreeing to a peaceful transfer of power. \\u201cMike Pence will be in a Nuremberg trial someday,\\u201d said Rick.

Griffin said it was tragic as Pence had once been seen as a mainstream Republican. \\u201cIt\\u2019s shocking to watch him get indoctrinated like a freaking member of right-wing ISIS, go on his degenerate journey to becoming nothing but the crap under Trump\\u2019s shoe,\\u201d she said. \\u201cAnd it\\u2019s disheartening watching him tonight\\u2026 just parroting, conspiracy theories that seem to get crazier. As the night went on, I just looked at him and I went, fuck that fly\\u2014that guy.\\u201d

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