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b'Time to get into the 5G! Well, okay, the international political economy of 5G and the new Cold War with China. We trace the history and expansion of Huawei\\u2014a hugely important, but greatly misunderstood (and badly analyzed), company at the center of next-gen communication technologies\\u2014and its role in the global development of the telecom industry since the 1980s. This episode is kinda information dense, but a focused analysis of Huawei is crucial for figuring out pressure points or fault lines in the global system. 5G won\\u2019t cause covid, but will it cause communism?! (Nah, it\\u2019s state capitalism).\\n\\nOur discussion builds on, and fills in some gaps in, this great new essay by Evgeny Morozov on the geopolitics of Huawei: https://mondediplo.com/2020/11/10huawei\\n\\nSubscribe to hear the second part of conversation with Michael and get more premium episodes every week! patreon.com/thismachinekills \\n\\nHosted by Jathan Sadowski (twitter.com/jathansadowski) and Edward Ongweso Jr. (twitter.com/bigblackjacobin). Production / Music by Jereme Brown (twitter.com/braunestahl).'