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b'Cold open: excerpt from UBIK by Philip K. Dick\\nOutro: amazing new track by Jereme, "End of Time"\\n\\nWe\\u2019re joined by Cory Doctorow \\u2014 prolific author, longtime activist, friend of the show \\u2014 to learn about a critical issue that much of his advocacy work centers on: adversarial interoperability, a.k.a competitive compatibility. Cory explains why this approach to designing and governing technological systems is crucial for knocking down the walled gardens that keep us captive and for breaking up the highly concentrated corporate oligopoly. For ensuring the business of innovation serves people\\u2019s needs and for empowering us all with greater self-determination and agency over the things that mediate our lives. To put it simply: for being users, not just used.\\n\\nCory also joined us for a blockbuster doubleheader \\u2014 so stick around for the premium episode where we discuss surveillance capitalism, science fiction, and much more. \\n\\nLinks to Cory\\u2019s work:\\n\\u2022 Twitter: https://twitter.com/doctorow\\n\\u2022 Books: https://craphound.com/\\n\\u2022 Blog: https://pluralistic.net/\\n\\u2022 Adversarial interoperability: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/adversarial-interoperability\\n\\nSubscribe to hear more analysis and commentary in our premium episodes every week! http://patreon.com/thismachinekills \\n\\nHosted by Jathan Sadowski (twitter.com/jathansadowski) and Edward Ongweso Jr. (twitter.com/bigblackjacobin). Production / Music by Jereme Brown (twitter.com/braunestahl).'